Prosecuted for consumer deception and unlawful comparative advertising, Château de Reignac wine has lost its appeal… Discover more with Beaux-Vins !
Yves Vatelot, owner of Château de Reignac - Entre-Deux-Mers —, appeared in Bordeaux court for "deceptive marketing practices" because of his wine.
This whole story begins with a blind tasting organized by a grand jury of tasters. In 2009, the Château de Reignac competed alongside Petrus, Château Margaux and other Cheval Blanc. Blind tasting result : our famous domain came second, behind Château Angelus. In the process, Yves Vatelot launched a video on Youtube that grew like suspicious mushrooms on social networks.
My opinion on this video
This video was captured at the Hotel Laurent (Paris), the 29 June 2009. This blind tasting is organized by François Mauss, creator of the European Grand Jury in 1996. Mauss’s goal is to provide a collective point of view on wines to limit the influence of unilateral criticism. So, he proposed to 15 recognized tasters, 11 vintage wines 2001 without knowing the labels in advance. Until then all is well you will tell me ?
… But we must not push grandma !
I find it edifying and instructive to see the people of the tasting say that Château Haut-Brion is undrinkable, that the Château Margaux is acidic or that the Petrus 2001 has evolved without having recognized them blindly ! For big names in the wine world, it's almost scary…
Next to that, these cadors worshiping Bacchus make foot at Château Reignac 2001, a simple Bordeaux Supérieur for less than 20 €. The wine is confused with Château Angelus and is placed second in the tasting. The truth is that Château Reignac is not a bad wine, it is even a very good Bordeaux superior to less than 20 €. On the other hand, from there to confuse it with the crème de la crème of Bordeaux, we should not push. And to think that he gives advice every year on Bordeaux futures, so they are not screwed to tell the difference between a superior Bordeaux and a Petrus…
Far from the best Bordeaux, this wine lacks finesse, elegance and complexity to enter the big leagues. I still wonder today how the "Grand" European Jury could have given such a partial opinion on this tasting.. Intoxicated by their notoriety, did they spend more time wanting to recognize the wines than really rating them ? We'll certainly never know.
Imagine they live up to their disproportionate reputation
A tasting like this is just a photograph capturing in half a second a futile moment of the world of wine. It's all well and good, but what about the aging capacity of these pins ? Reignac, after 20 years of conservation, risk of being quite bland compared to a Petrus from the same vintage ! On top of that, Was the Reignac tasted at its peak during the tasting against these competitors too young to be appreciated at their fair value? ?
Their motto is pretty on paper. How could we contradict that a collective opinion is better than a single ? It feels like a novel by Alexandre Dumas where the heroes chant in chorus "One for all, all for one ! ". Except that a sum of subjectivity will never give an objectivity. So what these tasters offer, as usual, it is Perlimpinpin powder !
The trick was played, all that was needed was the well-established journalists and bloggers for the information to spread like wildfire.
When we attack the Empire, the Empire strikes back
Although this video got a lot of talk, it was an advertising insert in Le Figaro that ended up triggering the ire of the profession. The Saint-Loubès winemaker was inspired by 2014 of the slogan of France Info to provoke the Bordeaux Leviathan. Advertising claims in these few words : « Reignac, 1first classified vintage ". An asterisk denoted a statement that "If it were true, few would afford it. "
Under the pressure and determination of the profession, Yves Vatelot had to change the content of his advertising. But it was too late, the Bordeaux Inquisition was tired of its heretical behavior ! Three years later, the owner of Château de Reignac finds himself on the dock for deceptive commercial practices and unlawful comparative advertising. The Saint-Émilion Wine Council, the Union of Grands Crus Classées de Graves and the Conseil des Grands Crus Classés de 1855 don't go with the back of the bottle. Each claims the modest sum of 100’000 € damages.
The survey conducted by the Regional Business Directorate, competition, of Consumption, of Labor and Employment, aptly called Direccte, confirmed the charges. “All of its marketing is based on comparison. It constantly cultivates doubt and maintains confusion ”, accuses Me Poulou by detailing the brochures and the content of some of the pages of the Château's website.
For Yves Vatelot, this masquerade of justice makes no sense : "The average consumer knows everything. He knows that at 20 euros, he cannot afford classified grands crus ”. But the old decrees are still there and in force.
The use of the term "Grand Cru Classé" is codified. No one can avail themselves of it because its use is exclusively reserved for the elites of the Bordeaux vineyard. As for comparative advertising, it is only accepted between winegrowers of the same "level". Nothing prevents Bordeaux Supérieur from leading a cockfight, but they have to do it in their backyard.
"It annoys the great wines"
Legally, blind tastings calling into question the supremacy of Grands Crus are of little value. " The journalists, critics can make comparisons. They have the right. He does not. The legislation protects classified grands crus. The bottle is expensive, but behind there is the quality ”, insists prosecutor Nathalie Queran, requesting a suspended prison sentence with a fine of 30’000 € against Château de Reignac.
Yves Vatelot's lawyer, Me François Tosi deplores "These lawsuits which do not make sense". "We blame him, for example, for having said that his terroir was worthy of that of a classified grand cru. But it is written in the Féret, the bible of Bordeaux wines. In what, to rely on indisputable writings or criticism from specialists to promote its wines would be illegal or likely to mislead ? Reignac pulls up the Bordeaux Supérieur appellation but it annoys the grands crus. They want to put the foot on him ", François Tosi is carried away under the gaze of the said winemaker.
Justice proved them right. Yves Vatelot will have to pay 30’000 € fine, dont 20’000 € suspended. Moreover, the winemaker will have to pay 2’000 € to each civil party.
"Depending on whether you are powerful or miserable, court judgments will make you black or white. »Plague Animals - La Fontaine
Here, the bodet didn't just mow the meadow the width of his tongue. He thought he was for the fox and had very long teeth, casually attacking the "Kings" of Bordeaux. This case tells us there is no winner, but only losers. Wanting to do too much, we find ourselves in the dock pleading a lost cause against the powerful whose power is matched only by their greed.
Conviction confirmed on appeal for Château Reignac
The news fell on 12 of September 2018 in Bordeaux : Château Reignac, sued for consumer deception and unlawful comparative advertising lost appeal.
For the Bordeaux Court of Appeal, claiming to be the equal of a Grand Cru is not legal. It therefore confirms the condemnation of the domain for consumer deception and unlawful comparative advertising., as well as its owner Yves Vatelot. While at first instance the amounts requested for compensation were respectively 30’000 and 15’000€, the Court of Appeal reduced these amounts to 8’000€ suspended. However, it adds an order to publish the judgment on the websites of the civil parties - that is to say the advice of the Grands Crus Classés in 1855, the Saint-Émilion Wine Council and the Union des Crus Classés de Graves —.
Reignac prefers to see the positive
"The lowering of the sentence should be noted. It’s positive for us. But I am disappointed… I honestly thought that the judges would understand that it is enough to know how to read to understand that one does not deceive the consumer "regrets Yves Vatelot.
“This confirmation was expected, the Château de Reignac had gone too far in its communication. We cannot use with impunity a traditional term which is linked to restrictive specifications ”explains Maître Hélène Poulou, the lawyer of Bordeaux rankings. They hope "that this judgment can be used as case law for other cases of deceptive marketing practices. "
And you ?
What do you think of this case ? Has Château Reignac been too greedy or the Bordeaux Grands Crus have gone too far ? Do not hesitate to give your opinion in the comments !
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Thank you for your article, j'en parlé l'autre jour de cette histoire au bordeaux wine bar qu'on fréquente d'habitude avec mes collègues et ils ne voulait pas voir la vérité en face. I send them this step 😉 .
Well done Jean-Nicolas,
Really a great article that lacked the diversity of the web. I was immediately wary of this ad which ran very often on Facebook for a while.
Then recently, je suis tombé sur la dite bouteille chez un couple d'amis. So actually, c'est un bordeaux correct mais très loin de qualité que l'on retrouve sur un Angélus (for example). There are even some wines less expensive than the famous Château de Reignac which offer very good pleasure / price ratio.
And to quote La Fontaine again : "Rien ne sert de courir, better to leave on time."
D'un autre côté cela montre que c'est là que réside toute la fragilité de la subjectivité du vin (in Bordeaux in particular)
In short terms! A real pleasure to read this article.
Corentin – DesVinsaVous
You don't drink often so ...
Hello
reignac 2010 pour moi le meilleur vin qu'i m'ait étéd boire !!
Agree with you, but above all you shouldn't touch the raw grds, these are untouchable unfortunately for us .
Thank you for this feedback. I do not recognize the level of Bettane (I don't even have to get to her ankle), mais c'est vrai que cette vidéo m'a toujours fait tiquer…
What vintage have you tasted ? L'idéal serait de goûter ce fameux millésime 2001 to get to the bottom of it !
Must see the bright side of things, they are more realistic on their guide…
Caviste de métier j'ai eu l'occasion de vérifier ces dires… after stumbling across the video of this famous incredible tasting, I found myself strongly caught off guard… not knowing what to think (et surtout ayant pu discuter déjà avec michel bettane et ayant pu de visu constater son niveau qui est excellent c'est un fait) je me suis empressé de me fournir le fameux flacon afin de vérifier que cela n'était pas une arnaque…quelle ne fut pas ma déception en dégustant ce challenger qui n'a rien d'exceptionnel ! a well-built, well-made wine that sells for a reasonable price but no more. this video smacks of the staging and the bribe to the nose, for my part I'm glad it ended like this.
it is a shame for small producers that great vintages have so much legal power but it is legitimate to lose this business when we do false advertising.
j'étais en train de relire le guide bettane et desseauve quand je suis tombé sur reignac à qui ils mettent 2* … how not to put them 5* when we estimate this wine so much?
Very good wine for its price bracket, afterwards I'm not a great connoisseur, but I have already tasted Château Haut-Brion, and clearly it has nothing to do!
After if you have the opportunity to taste it, I recommend it anyway.
How are these Big ones afraid of the Little ones who go up ? To be continued in a few years.
The great Bordeaux think they have a monopoly but it is nothing as their product is overrated and oversold. I remind you that we are not talking “what” of grapes and soil. They also in other times knew how to make propaganda for their wines. Suddenly it's fair game.
Reignac just used the communication channels, arousing curiosity and it worked so well that it ended up in court.
Pathetic.
Hello Franz,I understand your point of view and understand that the domain has only used the correct communication channels. What bothers me the most about this story is the tasting in 2009. However, we must not forget that all this media hype did not have any real consequences for the Grands Crus, but it was done to the detriment of consumers…
Good morning all, being a simple wine lover and never having had the opportunity to taste any of these prestigious wines nor that of Reignac, I just allow a little reflection to share with everyone
I see that some take very seriously the “pseudo” usurpation of reignac for apparently pretending to be something he is not… but I saw no one noted the fact that rotchild had to pay out a lot of money to enter the prestigious classification of grand cru 1855
Don't you find it so revolting?
Rotchild castles are they really exceptional, are they out of flattery
Thank you Alex for this comment.
For tasting this famous Reignac, it is unthinkable that he could compete with these great wines. Far be it from me to say he's bad, but it is not at the same level of quality.
As for the question concerning the introduction of Château Mouton Rothschild in the classification of Grands Crus from 1855, indeed it seems strange that he was able to negotiate his entry into 1973. However, It should be noted that paying money to access it is only an unfounded theory. Probable therefore, but far from being proven.
More down to earth, it is very likely that the purchase of the domain 2 years before the ranking closed its doors to the ranking at the time. The inventor of bottling at the château won, thanks to the support of his cousins who own Lafite, close to Georges Pompidou then President of the Republic, the decree signed by Jacques Chirac – Minister of Agriculture – who dedicated Mouton Rothschild premier cru. In the process, the motto of the domain became : "First I can, Second I was, Mouton does not change. ”
J’ai bu tout bordeaux , bourgogne et Rhône.
J’ai été surpris , déçu et décontenancé.
J’ai aimé , adoré et finalement détesté.
Reignac est très souple à la manière d’un angelus .
Il est fin comme un pauillac .
A la manière d’un grand pessac il flatte le palais par sa volupté et ses notes de moka grillé . A l’aveugle il a tout d’un grand. Maintenant lorsqu’il a été dégusté par le grand jury , il était à son apogée. Les autres étaient encore fermés trop jeunes pour être bu.
J’ai aimé Reignac , tout comme j’ai aimé les hauts de Pontet Canet , l’alter Ego de Palmer , le Baron de Brane , le clos du marquis de Léoville Las Cases … des seconds qui méritent d’être des premiers …
Mettre Reignac dans la catégorie des bon bordeaux supérieur c’est dénigrer les Roc de Cambres , les Puyguerauds , les le Puy , hostens piquants et autres Fourcas-hostens ou Poupille .
A défaut d’être bien née ils construisent du mieux qu’ils peuvent et rivalisent avec les plus grands . Au grand bonheur de notre portefeuille.